Wii system, accessory, virtual console pros/cons?
So I think I'm gonna get myself a Wii. I really like the virtual console concept, and it looks like a lot of the games would be fun. Plus the GF likes the "easy" games (hell, so do I. I'm a TERRIBLE gamer).
I swore up and down I'd never get one when they came out, but it appeals to me more and more all the time.
I have a PS3 slim that I never, ever touch except for streaming Netflix, and it seems that the Wii has the same exact capabilities. Might as well sell/trade the PS3, get a Wii (that I'll probably actually play) and I think I come out as a winner.
I do have questions for you guys, though. I've read the Wiki and some reviews, but I like to get the experts' opinions as well.
What are the pros/cons of the different controllers available (classic controller, nunchuck, Gamecube controllers, etc.)?
What about the system itself? What will I hate about it? What will I love about it? I know it's hard to answer that because everyone has different needs/wants, but basically I want to play the VC games, the main platformers, and the fun/easy games.
And the VC itself....what are the drawbacks? Pros?
Thanks guys!
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The primary controller is great as is the nunchuk, again when shit is coded right they work fantastic for pointing, weird motions, or even an awesome flight stick (at least in) Sky Crawlers (by the Ace Combat team.) The classic controller/pro is a solid device a bastard child of snes/dual shock pads that works well and is comfy enough. No real reason to comment on the GC pad other than it works as it did on GC unless you never used one but only some games use it.
The down side of the unit really comes down to a few aggravating things, some can't be changed, others Nintendo are douchebags about. What can't be changed if you're an HD-crack head it isn't. Also, the storage is a complete turd at 512MB shared so you end up having to keep a couple gig SD card in the slot and while you can load, read, and write off it off a submenu, it sucks and is slower but it's a fair work around. The thing that's twat level, downloaded game's users rights. If your system breaks or is stolen and you replace it, you lose your games. Nintendo's legalese says games are bound to one system, that's it. If you replace for whatever reason, you're likely fucked, likely as I know some have called and successfully got a system delinked and a new one linked but it's not in the rules so it's gambling. They refuse to make a central account like Sony smartly did so you can't just pick up and lift your shit at a click of a button.
The only other huge primary negative to the system, isn't the system or lack of digital right, it's the games. Nintendo has released some downgraded first party properties sadly, but most of it lies in the two faced underhanded way third parties have treated the Wii. Ignored at first, then scorned for years and still is by some, it gets a shit ton of really bad shovel ware, party games, flash PC game ports that fill shelves up badly. Those you can spot, the problem are those that are made off the name of a good "A" game company/franchise and they rarely put effort into stuff and instead using B-teams in training to do shitty spinoffs and insulting halfassed franchise games. I could go on about a lot, including how EA gave us a rail shooter Dead Space while the team making it had it set as a full FPS (at the same quality) but couldn't get it done fast enough, Capcom and their spongy behavior with lame ports and rail shooter spinoffs, and so on. Sadly I'd dare say that less than 5% of the 3rd party games are worth buying at full price let alone in the 50% off bin.
I like, no longer love the Wii. I can barely stand to buy games for it anymore after pissing way i'm guessing a few thousand bucks in shit on a disc insults from third parties lying to game websites saying 'we tried hard this is our test game for future efforts' and being a sucker and buying a turd. I buy really just first party now and maybe 1-3 third party games a year in the last 2 years thanks to that. As is I'm fence sitting on Epic Mickey and Goldeneye, and have ignored a lot of supposedly great games out of sheer lack of trust and fear as I'm on a budget (Red Steel 2, Tiger Woods Golf, CODMW Reflex, Anno Dawn of Discovery, and multiple others.)
Tanooki and JBO have said it pretty well on the pros and cons of the Wii. I have had one for a few years now, and I mostly just use it now to watch Netflix on my TV in my room.
My main thought process is this:
I have a $250-ish machine that I don't use except to stream netflix.
I could have the same Netflix streaming, plus a system I'll actually play, plus $100-$150 in my pocket.
You should be able to pick up a system with cords and a Wiimote for $100ish easily if you look around a bit.
Virtual Console cons: Can't re-download your games if your system explodes, gets trampled on, or gets stolen. Prices really aren't very good overall, considering the above. Oh yeah, and they very, very rarely add new content.
I see a few here hate the motion controls, I get that, hell I feel it, but when it's done right in a unique experience (Zack and Wiki) or to bring life to a sport (Tiger Woods w/WM+), and to make a FPS just feel more realistic(?) while shooting/aiming/moving it really can be fantastic. The problem is, stuff like that is in the 5% I said so most of them will piss you off due to bugs and stupidity of design turning you off big time.
JBO, with the adapter you got, are the Genesis buttons mapped properly for VC games (as well as the other system controllers)? Emulators aren't an issue cause the buttons are mappable, but I've been holding off cause I haven't found any conformation that the buttons are correct for VC.
I like Wii Sports Resort and disc golf on Tiger Woods '10 and a couple Wiiware games (Dart Rage, the Beat.Trip series and Muscle March) as far as motion controls go. The classic factor is where it's at with the wii. Spent the extra doe and got a Club Nintendo Japan Super Famicom controller that goes into the wiimote. Well worth the extra scratch if u have the money for one (they ain't cheap).
JBO, with the adapter you got, are the Genesis buttons mapped properly for VC games (as well as the other system controllers)? Emulators aren't an issue cause the buttons are mappable, but I've been holding off cause I haven't found any conformation that the buttons are correct for VC.
I'll check it out if I remember tomorrow. I know the Z button is moved on the 64 due to the way they emulated the controller on VC.
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Definitely gotta get that classic controller, though.
Yeah I know they test stuff, it's rare that I go in there but I always see them spending forever checking stuff out. That's why I was so shocked that this didn't work.
Family Feud would have been a lot more fun if I had kicked the GF's ass instead of "teaming up" with her against the completely retarded computer opponents.
Other great accessories I have are wireless nunchuks (small receiver plugs into wiimote) and wireless charging pads for the wiimotes.
My wife and I were pumped about wii sports (tenis), but it was just a tease and they never followed that up with anything else.
Good things: The Virtual Console is great. Some of the WiiWare games are great too (mega man 9 and 10 for instance) the first party games are good fun, Mario Kart was a blast.