Just lock the thread, set up HOS, slap a HOS on NP4ever and put him on the banned bidder ebay list so we all don't have to deal with him.
NP4ever, if you lose an auction/sale/buyitnow/etc. GET OVER IT. We all lose auctions for stuff we want. Harassing sellers is not cool. Harassing NA members is not cool. Just live and let be and stop caring so damn much about what other people do with their stuff. Is someone wants to sell something for 10 instead of 100, that's their choice!\
Jonebone, telling people that you are buying this as a gift for someone when you clearly have no intention of that is lying and misleading. It's morally wrong and not illegal or violating any law/rule on ebay. As far as I'm concerned, it's frowned upon. I do think it takes advantage of someones human nature to try and do good if you imply that it will be given to someone else. That being said, it's not illegal, against ebays policies or anything else for that matter and only Jonebone has to live with himself for it. If he sees nothing wrong with it then nothing is going to change that. The fact of the matter is, it's not against the law or ebays policies. NP4ever harassing sellers IS against the law as well as convincing sellers not to sell something to someone when they have a contract with the individual is conspiring to do harm to the buyer. That is against ebay policies and is extremely bad.
I really hope this thing gets locked up soon. I almost feel like a gauntlet was thrown at the mods not to lock it and it's not being locked to prove a point now. As qixmaster said, NP4ever sucks and Jonas does not. Let's HOS NP4ever and move on.
Jonebone, telling people that you are buying this as a gift for someone when you clearly have no intention of that is lying and misleading. It's morally wrong and not illegal or violating any law/rule on ebay. As far as I'm concerned, it's frowned upon. I do think it takes advantage of someones human nature to try and do good if you imply that it will be given to someone else. That being said, it's not illegal, against ebays policies or anything else for that matter and only Jonebone has to live with himself for it. If he sees nothing wrong with it then nothing is going to change that. The fact of the matter is, it's not against the law or ebays policies. NP4ever harassing sellers IS against the law as well as convincing sellers not to sell something to someone when they have a contract with the individual is conspiring to do harm to the buyer. That is against ebay policies and is extremely bad.
I agree with everything in your post except the part in bold.
I certainly hope us pointing out the problems with his method make him reconsider and reflect on it.
Jonebone, telling people that you are buying this as a gift for someone when you clearly have no intention of that is lying and misleading. It's morally wrong and not illegal or violating any law/rule on ebay. As far as I'm concerned, it's frowned upon. I do think it takes advantage of someones human nature to try and do good if you imply that it will be given to someone else. That being said, it's not illegal, against ebays policies or anything else for that matter and only Jonebone has to live with himself for it. If he sees nothing wrong with it then nothing is going to change that. The fact of the matter is, it's not against the law or ebays policies. NP4ever harassing sellers IS against the law as well as convincing sellers not to sell something to someone when they have a contract with the individual is conspiring to do harm to the buyer. That is against ebay policies and is extremely bad.
I agree with everything in your post except the part in bold.
I certainly hope us pointing out the problems with his method make him reconsider and reflect on it.
I agree with you but ultimately it is up to the individual to live with the choices he/she makes and whether or not they want to change them. Some people do not think lying is wrong. Ultimately Jonebone needs to make the decision for himself whether or not he is doing something right or wrong. I would hope we would all know by now the difference between right and wrong and that your intent has the most to do with it. If you are intentionally doing something that you know will lead to more favorable results when you know you are being deceptive or misleading, you should know that it's wrong.
I agree with you but ultimately it is up to the individual to live with the choices he/she makes and whether or not they want to change them. Some people do not think lying is wrong.
The only adults that don't think lying is wrong are sociopaths.
It was a split decision. 1/3 say anything goes, 2/3 say to never intentionally be misleading. Bump that topic if you wish to re-open that can of worms, I'm sure you guys can make excellent points that weren't brought up in those 77 posts.
When I do something wrong (and I have) or I over step my boundaries, my Admins are there to let me know...That is their job...
NOT YOURS!
Not entirely true.
Part of being a responsible citizen is holding your leaders and police force accountable.
Ah, that would be true in a democracy where you elect your officials... Fortunately for me, I was not elected by the citizens for NA... Unfortunately for some, NA is more of a dictatorship, and today I get to be the DICK!
Wow, this thread went in a direction I wasn't expecting.
I just wanted to clear a few things up so that they aren't misunderstood. I read that the Hall of Shame is likely to come back in one way or another and I think that is a great idea. I back the mods and all of their decisions 100%, they're the ones that keep this place up and running and my favorite place to visit on the web. If they have plans to bring back the HOS in a new format, I totally support that.
That being said, if the mod/admin staff is really looking for a volunteer to run the HOS of shame who isn't a mod here (though I am on SegaAge), I would really like to be considered for the position. When running the hall I always tried to keep the bickering to a minimum (thanks in no small part to Qix) and did my best to do things that would be in the best interest of the community. I never felt the need to play nice or put on kids gloves with scammers, I had no problems adding people to the list even if they were friends of mine( I think I was Chad's aka NoFriendo's last friend he may have had on the site) or long standing members (raregamergirl is a prime example) and I definitely didn't give a shit about hurting the feelings of those who lie, steal, cheat, or otherwise harm the community.
The way it was run kept it fairly simple too and about as fair as I can figure. I was the ONLY person who could add people to the HOS, but mods/admin were the only people allowed to REMOVE people from the HOS. This way, if I add you based on evidence that you were doing something shitty, you don't have to bitch to me. On the other hand, if I was treating others unfairly, mods could keep the thread in check.
If the mods/admin team are looking for a non-mod for the position, were interested in me taking it over again, and maybe most importantly, if the NA community felt comfortable with me taking the reigns again, I really would like to be considered. Anyway, just wanted to make my intentions clear and just give a quick thanks for those who mentioned that I had done a good job in the past. It was definitely hard work, and I have to deal with Dutch talking shit about me on every forum he has yet to be banned from, but it was the least I could do for all the amazing people that I've met here.
Fortunately for me, I was not elected by the citizens for NA... Unfortunately for some, NA is more of a dictatorship, and today I get to be the DICK!
I know you added the wink and all, but this is really "too soon" and in the wrong thread. Between this and revealing that you wish this thread was locked, I think you should take a few days off. You've only been a mod for three months and you already think it is ok to make statements like this and threaten to lock legitimate complaints of forum policy?
Wow, this thread went in a direction I wasn't expecting.
I just wanted to clear a few things up so that they aren't misunderstood. I read that the Hall of Shame is likely to come back in one way or another and I think that is a great idea. I back the mods and all of their decisions 100%, they're the ones that keep this place up and running and my favorite place to visit on the web. If they have plans to bring back the HOS in a new format, I totally support that.
That being said, if the mod/admin staff is really looking for a volunteer to run the HOS of shame who isn't a mod here (though I am on SegaAge), I would really like to be considered for the position. When running the hall I always tried to keep the bickering to a minimum (thanks in no small part to Qix) and did my best to do things that would be in the best interest of the community. I never felt the need to play nice or put on kids gloves with scammers, I had no problems adding people to the list even if they were friends of mine( I think I was Chad's aka NoFriendo's last friend he may have had on the site) or long standing members (raregamergirl is a prime example) and I definitely didn't give a shit about hurting the feelings of those who lie, steal, cheat, or otherwise harm the community.
The way it was run kept it fairly simple too and about as fair as I can figure. I was the ONLY person who could add people to the HOS, but mods/admin were the only people allowed to REMOVE people from the HOS. This way, if I add you based on evidence that you were doing something shitty, you don't have to bitch to me. On the other hand, if I was treating others unfairly, mods could keep the thread in check.
If the mods/admin team are looking for a non-mod for the position, were interested in me taking it over again, and maybe most importantly, if the NA community felt comfortable with me taking the reigns again, I really would like to be considered. Anyway, just wanted to make my intentions clear and just give a quick thanks for those who mentioned that I had done a good job in the past. It was definitely hard work, and I have to deal with Dutch talking shit about me on every forum he has yet to be banned from, but it was the least I could do for all the amazing people that I've met here.
Fortunately for me, I was not elected by the citizens for NA... Unfortunately for some, NA is more of a dictatorship, and today I get to be the DICK!
I know you added the wink and all, but this is really "too soon" and in the wrong thread. Between this and revealing that you wish this thread was locked, I think you should take a few days off. You've only been a mod for three months and you already think it is ok to make statements like this and threaten to lock legitimate complaints of forum policy?
Mark is a great guy and he did an excellent job when he was in charge of the HOS. He's a full on stand up guy and he's got everyone's back, I can't think of a better choice to be honest.
Speaking of people taking the job and burning out, I really miss Frankie (KidOrron), he just up and dissapeared one day, it's a real shame.
Fortunately for me, I was not elected by the citizens for NA... Unfortunately for some, NA is more of a dictatorship, and today I get to be the DICK!
I know you added the wink and all, but this is really "too soon" and in the wrong thread. Between this and revealing that you wish this thread was locked, I think you should take a few days off. You've only been a mod for three months and you already think it is ok to make statements like this and threaten to lock legitimate complaints of forum policy?
Matt, keep on lockin em up.
Quoted for qix because he's on a phone or something.
Mark is a great guy and he did an excellent job when he was in charge of the HOS. He's a full on stand up guy and he's got everyone's back, I can't think of a better choice to be honest.
Speaking of people taking the job and burning out, I really miss Frankie (KidOrron), he just up and dissapeared one day, it's a real shame.
I think school is keeping him busy, more power to him
I don't think I would have the willpower to stay away, but then again, I didn't watch a single game of football, or play a video game outside of an occasional rampage on Vice City on the weekend with my bro, my whole time in college
Mark is a great guy and he did an excellent job when he was in charge of the HOS. He's a full on stand up guy and he's got everyone's back, I can't think of a better choice to be honest.
Speaking of people taking the job and burning out, I really miss Frankie (KidOrron), he just up and dissapeared one day, it's a real shame.
I think school is keeping him busy, more power to him
I don't think I would have the willpower to stay away, but then again, I didn't watch a single game of football, or play a video game outside of an occasional rampage on Vice City on the weekend with my bro, my whole time in college
(a bit of drinking still though)
That's good to hear. I was wondering where Frank went.
How the hell did you go without football? That's not even civilized. The drinking goes so well with it too.
I'm glad dude got called out, that's shady as hell to do to anyone. For what it's worth, I won't be dealing with him at any point now or in the future. And didn't that guy get the memo, hating Jonas was SO 2009.
I'm glad I don't go to ebay for my games anyway, it's all too cutthroat for me.
If Mark needs help with the Hall, put me down as a volunteer to help him.
Pretty cool Mark's stepping up to bat on this. As for the Mods, I think they do just fine. If it weren't for them, we all be packin our irons within city limits. I haven't really seen anything locked, that couldn't have been handled privately off stage to be honest. When my shit gets locked, I'm sure my view will change....fuckin pricks.
Nah, not really. I mean, for average topics that need locked no, at least. Although I hate when people put LOCK TOPIC in a title, that's the whole idea of leading a forum of information, that you want to know what it would be about, I wish it was changed back to the title before the edit to be locked or something. Sure they may be locked for a reason, but it's sometimes because of another thread found that had the information that they need, and if you search and it's hard to find the topic, then you'll also find the locked topics that actually have a title that has a link inside you could use to find what you need also. Something you wouldn't click if the title just said LOCK TOPIC.
We should move all the locked topic to a separate sub topic.
As a moderator, I disagree, if the topic is locked, why keep it going in a seperate forum? I think it is more about keeping a topic in line and letting it run it's course more than anything. No need to let it sit in it's own category. While I feel this was locked way too soon, I don't think it would help matters having an open flame session after the fact. Mods are here for a reason, You or I may not agree but they serve a purpose.
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You want some McD's Josh?
ughhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
nintendopower4ever sucks
jonas does not
what do we do now?
LOL
ughhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
nintendopower4ever sucks
jonas does not
what do we do now?
Just lock the thread, set up HOS, slap a HOS on NP4ever and put him on the banned bidder ebay list so we all don't have to deal with him.
NP4ever, if you lose an auction/sale/buyitnow/etc. GET OVER IT. We all lose auctions for stuff we want. Harassing sellers is not cool. Harassing NA members is not cool. Just live and let be and stop caring so damn much about what other people do with their stuff. Is someone wants to sell something for 10 instead of 100, that's their choice!\
Jonebone, telling people that you are buying this as a gift for someone when you clearly have no intention of that is lying and misleading. It's morally wrong and not illegal or violating any law/rule on ebay. As far as I'm concerned, it's frowned upon. I do think it takes advantage of someones human nature to try and do good if you imply that it will be given to someone else. That being said, it's not illegal, against ebays policies or anything else for that matter and only Jonebone has to live with himself for it. If he sees nothing wrong with it then nothing is going to change that. The fact of the matter is, it's not against the law or ebays policies. NP4ever harassing sellers IS against the law as well as convincing sellers not to sell something to someone when they have a contract with the individual is conspiring to do harm to the buyer. That is against ebay policies and is extremely bad.
I really hope this thing gets locked up soon. I almost feel like a gauntlet was thrown at the mods not to lock it and it's not being locked to prove a point now. As qixmaster said, NP4ever sucks and Jonas does not. Let's HOS NP4ever and move on.
Jonebone, telling people that you are buying this as a gift for someone when you clearly have no intention of that is lying and misleading. It's morally wrong and not illegal or violating any law/rule on ebay. As far as I'm concerned, it's frowned upon. I do think it takes advantage of someones human nature to try and do good if you imply that it will be given to someone else. That being said, it's not illegal, against ebays policies or anything else for that matter and only Jonebone has to live with himself for it. If he sees nothing wrong with it then nothing is going to change that. The fact of the matter is, it's not against the law or ebays policies. NP4ever harassing sellers IS against the law as well as convincing sellers not to sell something to someone when they have a contract with the individual is conspiring to do harm to the buyer. That is against ebay policies and is extremely bad.
I agree with everything in your post except the part in bold.
I certainly hope us pointing out the problems with his method make him reconsider and reflect on it.
Jonebone, telling people that you are buying this as a gift for someone when you clearly have no intention of that is lying and misleading. It's morally wrong and not illegal or violating any law/rule on ebay. As far as I'm concerned, it's frowned upon. I do think it takes advantage of someones human nature to try and do good if you imply that it will be given to someone else. That being said, it's not illegal, against ebays policies or anything else for that matter and only Jonebone has to live with himself for it. If he sees nothing wrong with it then nothing is going to change that. The fact of the matter is, it's not against the law or ebays policies. NP4ever harassing sellers IS against the law as well as convincing sellers not to sell something to someone when they have a contract with the individual is conspiring to do harm to the buyer. That is against ebay policies and is extremely bad.
I agree with everything in your post except the part in bold.
I certainly hope us pointing out the problems with his method make him reconsider and reflect on it.
I agree with you but ultimately it is up to the individual to live with the choices he/she makes and whether or not they want to change them. Some people do not think lying is wrong. Ultimately Jonebone needs to make the decision for himself whether or not he is doing something right or wrong. I would hope we would all know by now the difference between right and wrong and that your intent has the most to do with it. If you are intentionally doing something that you know will lead to more favorable results when you know you are being deceptive or misleading, you should know that it's wrong.
I agree with you but ultimately it is up to the individual to live with the choices he/she makes and whether or not they want to change them. Some people do not think lying is wrong.
The only adults that don't think lying is wrong are sociopaths.
Jonas knows better, and said as much.
ughhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
nintendopower4ever sucks
jonas does not
what do we do now?
http://www.nintendoage.com/forum/messageview.cfm?catid=5&threadid=35102
It was a split decision. 1/3 say anything goes, 2/3 say to never intentionally be misleading. Bump that topic if you wish to re-open that can of worms, I'm sure you guys can make excellent points that weren't brought up in those 77 posts.
When I do something wrong (and I have) or I over step my boundaries, my Admins are there to let me know...That is their job...
NOT YOURS!
Not entirely true.
Part of being a responsible citizen is holding your leaders and police force accountable.
Ah, that would be true in a democracy where you elect your officials...
Fortunately for me, I was not elected by the citizens for NA...
Unfortunately for some, NA is more of a dictatorship, and today I get to be the DICK!
Not too cool.
I just wanted to clear a few things up so that they aren't misunderstood. I read that the Hall of Shame is likely to come back in one way or another and I think that is a great idea. I back the mods and all of their decisions 100%, they're the ones that keep this place up and running and my favorite place to visit on the web. If they have plans to bring back the HOS in a new format, I totally support that.
That being said, if the mod/admin staff is really looking for a volunteer to run the HOS of shame who isn't a mod here (though I am on SegaAge), I would really like to be considered for the position. When running the hall I always tried to keep the bickering to a minimum (thanks in no small part to Qix) and did my best to do things that would be in the best interest of the community. I never felt the need to play nice or put on kids gloves with scammers, I had no problems adding people to the list even if they were friends of mine( I think I was Chad's aka NoFriendo's last friend he may have had on the site) or long standing members (raregamergirl is a prime example) and I definitely didn't give a shit about hurting the feelings of those who lie, steal, cheat, or otherwise harm the community.
The way it was run kept it fairly simple too and about as fair as I can figure. I was the ONLY person who could add people to the HOS, but mods/admin were the only people allowed to REMOVE people from the HOS. This way, if I add you based on evidence that you were doing something shitty, you don't have to bitch to me. On the other hand, if I was treating others unfairly, mods could keep the thread in check.
If the mods/admin team are looking for a non-mod for the position, were interested in me taking it over again, and maybe most importantly, if the NA community felt comfortable with me taking the reigns again, I really would like to be considered. Anyway, just wanted to make my intentions clear and just give a quick thanks for those who mentioned that I had done a good job in the past. It was definitely hard work, and I have to deal with Dutch talking shit about me on every forum he has yet to be banned from, but it was the least I could do for all the amazing people that I've met here.
Fortunately for me, I was not elected by the citizens for NA...
Unfortunately for some, NA is more of a dictatorship, and today I get to be the DICK!
I know you added the wink and all, but this is really "too soon" and in the wrong thread. Between this and revealing that you wish this thread was locked, I think you should take a few days off. You've only been a mod for three months and you already think it is ok to make statements like this and threaten to lock legitimate complaints of forum policy?
Wow, this thread went in a direction I wasn't expecting.
I just wanted to clear a few things up so that they aren't misunderstood. I read that the Hall of Shame is likely to come back in one way or another and I think that is a great idea. I back the mods and all of their decisions 100%, they're the ones that keep this place up and running and my favorite place to visit on the web. If they have plans to bring back the HOS in a new format, I totally support that.
That being said, if the mod/admin staff is really looking for a volunteer to run the HOS of shame who isn't a mod here (though I am on SegaAge), I would really like to be considered for the position. When running the hall I always tried to keep the bickering to a minimum (thanks in no small part to Qix) and did my best to do things that would be in the best interest of the community. I never felt the need to play nice or put on kids gloves with scammers, I had no problems adding people to the list even if they were friends of mine( I think I was Chad's aka NoFriendo's last friend he may have had on the site) or long standing members (raregamergirl is a prime example) and I definitely didn't give a shit about hurting the feelings of those who lie, steal, cheat, or otherwise harm the community.
The way it was run kept it fairly simple too and about as fair as I can figure. I was the ONLY person who could add people to the HOS, but mods/admin were the only people allowed to REMOVE people from the HOS. This way, if I add you based on evidence that you were doing something shitty, you don't have to bitch to me. On the other hand, if I was treating others unfairly, mods could keep the thread in check.
If the mods/admin team are looking for a non-mod for the position, were interested in me taking it over again, and maybe most importantly, if the NA community felt comfortable with me taking the reigns again, I really would like to be considered. Anyway, just wanted to make my intentions clear and just give a quick thanks for those who mentioned that I had done a good job in the past. It was definitely hard work, and I have to deal with Dutch talking shit about me on every forum he has yet to be banned from, but it was the least I could do for all the amazing people that I've met here.
Mark, you're the man, PM coming.
Fortunately for me, I was not elected by the citizens for NA...
Unfortunately for some, NA is more of a dictatorship, and today I get to be the DICK!
I know you added the wink and all, but this is really "too soon" and in the wrong thread. Between this and revealing that you wish this thread was locked, I think you should take a few days off. You've only been a mod for three months and you already think it is ok to make statements like this and threaten to lock legitimate complaints of forum policy?
Matt, keep on lockin em up.
Put me down as backup volunteer for Mark, we need it ASAP!
Pick-A-Dick Friday??? PLEASE COME BACK!
Speaking of people taking the job and burning out, I really miss Frankie (KidOrron), he just up and dissapeared one day, it's a real shame.
Fortunately for me, I was not elected by the citizens for NA...
Unfortunately for some, NA is more of a dictatorship, and today I get to be the DICK!
I know you added the wink and all, but this is really "too soon" and in the wrong thread. Between this and revealing that you wish this thread was locked, I think you should take a few days off. You've only been a mod for three months and you already think it is ok to make statements like this and threaten to lock legitimate complaints of forum policy?
Matt, keep on lockin em up.
Quoted for qix because he's on a phone or something.
edit: not working for me either?
edit 2: guess not, here's what qix said:
Matt, keep on lockin em up.
Mark is a great guy and he did an excellent job when he was in charge of the HOS. He's a full on stand up guy and he's got everyone's back, I can't think of a better choice to be honest.
Speaking of people taking the job and burning out, I really miss Frankie (KidOrron), he just up and dissapeared one day, it's a real shame.
I think school is keeping him busy, more power to him
I don't think I would have the willpower to stay away, but then again, I didn't watch a single game of football, or play a video game outside of an occasional rampage on Vice City on the weekend with my bro, my whole time in college
(a bit of drinking still though)
Mark is a great guy and he did an excellent job when he was in charge of the HOS. He's a full on stand up guy and he's got everyone's back, I can't think of a better choice to be honest.
Speaking of people taking the job and burning out, I really miss Frankie (KidOrron), he just up and dissapeared one day, it's a real shame.
I think school is keeping him busy, more power to him
I don't think I would have the willpower to stay away, but then again, I didn't watch a single game of football, or play a video game outside of an occasional rampage on Vice City on the weekend with my bro, my whole time in college
(a bit of drinking still though)
That's good to hear. I was wondering where Frank went.
How the hell did you go without football? That's not even civilized. The drinking goes so well with it too.
I'm glad I don't go to ebay for my games anyway, it's all too cutthroat for me.
If Mark needs help with the Hall, put me down as a volunteer to help him.
Is there any specific mods we can contact when a deal goes sour with an NA member.
Nope, any of the mods should be glad to assist you with a Sour NA deal.
HOS - yes! Mark - yes!
Pick-A-Dick Friday??? PLEASE COME BACK!
Soon friends.... soon.
We should move all the locked topic to a separate sub topic.
As a moderator, I disagree, if the topic is locked, why keep it going in a seperate forum? I think it is more about keeping a topic in line and letting it run it's course more than anything. No need to let it sit in it's own category. While I feel this was locked way too soon, I don't think it would help matters having an open flame session after the fact. Mods are here for a reason, You or I may not agree but they serve a purpose.
We should move all the locked topic to a separate sub topic.
The MODs will get right on this...