I have a serious question.
What im about to post is in no way a personal attack or meant to be mean spirited or vindictive. it is a serious question regarding the rules of this community.
Earlier this week i noticed a WTB thread and pmed a guy about selling him a lot of titles.. we kicked around prices, he found a better deal elsewhere.. thats business. im okay with that . no problem.
couple weeks ago, a guy pmed me regarding purchasing a lot of titles . we kicked around prices and he COMMITTED TO BUYING. days go by ... nothing.
i send a few pms... nothing.
"i hope this guys ok.. hes been a ghost" iI thought.. iI check his NA profile guys online..
iI send a message.. nothing.
this goes on for over a week with me noticing the guy is online, sending a message and getting blatantly ignored.
iI canceled the transaction last week due to his lack of payment.
iI just listed two examples where my time was wasted.. the first im ok with. the second? not so much.. is this second example HoS worthy, or is it chalked up as an inconveince?
note: iI have put a respected seller here through a similar inconvenience but iI paid once my finances were straight and answered pms.
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If it was HOS worthy I could make a list of 25+ people on this site who have done this to me.
I make my own list and ignore those people if they ever contact me again.
That's why I'll list items as (pending) in my sale threads. I'll give people a few days to pay, and then if they flake out I'll just go onto the next interested person.
I say that if you commit to buying something, you should do so when you have your finances in order. The very least a person could do is respond back. There have been times when people have held an item for me til payday but that's still providing communication and commiting to buying the item. It's a different story if there's no follow through at the end. There is a section of the HOS for time wasters and I think it's there for a reason.
Idk, I think a warning system should be in effect. Like a 3 strike rule for wasting time..after 3 strikes the mods put a clock next to your username just as an advanced notice to potential sellers
I doubt that it would hold water. I do think that as a seller, you should simply put that you won't hold items and that you require payment within said number of days either in PM or in your thread. Ultimately, it's your stuff and you choose who to sell it to.
I say that if you commit to buying something, you should do so when you have your finances in order. The very least a person could do is respond back. There have been times when people have held an item for me til payday but that's still providing communication and commiting to buying the item. It's a different story if there's no follow through at the end. There is a section of the HOS for time wasters and I think it's there for a reason.
agreed. iI had a circumstance here where iI needed to pay a guy then a hurricane came, my phone drowned and my check went to a new phone. (seller worked with me patiently through this ordeal)
I say that if you commit to buying something, you should do so when you have your finances in order. The very least a person could do is respond back. There have been times when people have held an item for me til payday but that's still providing communication and commiting to buying the item. It's a different story if there's no follow through at the end. There is a section of the HOS for time wasters and I think it's there for a reason.
agreed. iI had a circumstance here where iI needed to pay a guy then a hurricane came, my phone drowned and my check went to a new phone. (seller worked with me patiently through this ordeal)
I even had an issue here where I bought an Earthbound cart and the dude sold it on ebay. He refunded me back and all was forgiven because at least he admitted wrong on his part. I think alot of it is attitude more than anything. Either a deal works out or not, be up front about it. People make mistakes but to totally disregard a deal like that is just not being respectful.
These kinds of things don't necessarily have to be big problems; that usually only happens when you aren't clear and detailed up front.
I had a Dreamcast up for auction on a while back, 2 people bid on it. the winner needed to wait til he got payed on Friday, okay no problem, thanks for letting me know. Friday comes and goes, no payment. I wait a bit, send PM, no response. Okay, a couple more days later, noticed he had signed in recently, so I send another PM, and again, no response. I was pissed off. Serious time waster here, not only that but I had the damn thing wrapped up, boxed up, ready to go out, just waiting for a payment, or something at least, but never heard back from him at all. And the other person didn't want it either for the price he bid on it. So here I thought I had a sale, but really just a waste of time from someone that didn't know what the hell he wanted (not the second bidder, the winner).
07/04/2011 05:14 PM - bid winner
I am really really sorry but I have a financial issue. I get paid on Friday if you wouldn't mind waiting that long? I apologize for the inconvenience
07/04/2011 10:08 PM - Miss Clawful (14)
No problem so long as you keep me in the know of what's going on. Get back to me once you get paid.
07/05/2011 12:45 AM - bid winner
okay, will do! thanks for being so understanding!
07/11/2011 02:59 PM - Miss Clawful (14)
Wondering if you are still getting the Dreamcast you bid on? Let me know what's going on, thanks.
07/13/2011 03:12 PM - Miss Clawful (14)
Going to try this again. Sent a message to you two days ago asking about whether you were still buying the Dreamcast you bid on, I know you had some money issues last week and had to wait til you got paid Friday, I had no problems with that (still wouldn't if only you'd communicate with me about how much longer), but we're well past that point, unless you meant Friday of the following week meaning this one coming up. But anyway, since I got no reply from you since then, but you've been on today and certainly could've taken a moment to answer to let me know what's up I'm not so sure I feel secure in dealing. If I don't hear back from you by end of this Friday coming up I'm going to assume you don't really want and going to ask the other guy who bid on it if he still wants.
Also have some jerks that don't pay right away on ebay as well, still waiting on a payment for one item since over a week ago, figure once I start relisting stuff in a day or few I'm just going to cancel that one so I can relist it because apparently that guy don't want it, since just like here with the Dreamcast, I send this guy a message too and no response.
I don't know what people's problems are, maybe they think beyond their means, but if I can't afford something I don't even try to buy it, and when I do I pay right away within minutes of purchasing. And another problem I have that I hate even worst are the ones that never leave feedback, they got what they wanted but no thank you of any sorts, then I'm also left wondering if everything is okay, did they get the games (well actually I get delivery confirmation for everything I sell, but did they get there safely), are they happy with them, or dissatisfied and not sure what to say to me about it, what?, so I end up having to wait a whole 21 days before I can even access the money in my Paypal from them, and you can ask away, please let me know how things are and/or leave feedback, and if not good get back with me first and we'll work something out, but most never respond with message or feedback.
If the transaction is finalized, and the deal doesn't come through, then it's HOS worthy. Imo, if no transaction was finalized, although it is time wasting, it isn't HOS worthy, due to it not being set in stone. The only exception to that, is auctions.
well yeah it was a transaction which iI canceled after no communication or payment over a period of days
If the transaction is finalized, and the deal doesn't come through, then it's HOS worthy. Imo, if no transaction was finalized, although it is time wasting, it isn't HOS worthy, due to it not being set in stone. The only exception to that, is auctions.
well yeah it was a transaction which iI canceled after no communication or payment over a period of days
Was the transaction accepted by both parties?
If the transaction is finalized, and the deal doesn't come through, then it's HOS worthy. Imo, if no transaction was finalized, although it is time wasting, it isn't HOS worthy, due to it not being set in stone. The only exception to that, is auctions.
well yeah it was a transaction which iI canceled after no communication or payment over a period of days
Was the transaction accepted by both parties?
tbh i dont remember i wanna say no bc i dont think I could cancel an accepted transaction
Usually it goes like this for me:
me: I'm interested
them: Alright
me: I'm not 100% on if I can get this. I will know by XXX day, but don't bother holding it for me if another offer comes up
Personally, I've always wondered if this tactic was a good one, or bad.
If the transaction is finalized, and the deal doesn't come through, then it's HOS worthy. Imo, if no transaction was finalized, although it is time wasting, it isn't HOS worthy, due to it not being set in stone. The only exception to that, is auctions.
well yeah it was a transaction which iI canceled after no communication or payment over a period of days
Was the transaction accepted by both parties?
tbh i dont remember i wanna say no bc i dont think I could cancel an accepted transaction
Well, if it wasn't finalized, then I don't think he could be HOS'd for backing out of a complete trans, but he may go in for being a time waster, if he has a track record of doing such.