Advanced Dungeons & Dragons: Hillsfar

Yeah, basically I've been playing the crap out of Hillsfar to try and knock it off on my completion list.  The Cleric, Fighter and Magic-User scenarios have all fallen by the wayside, but unfortunately I can't seem to finish with the Thief scenario, and it's really starting to irk me.  I've spent 16 hours total on the game, about 10 of which I've spent on the damn Thief scenario.  I'm stuck in the last quest, after defeating Ottis the Orc in the Arena and being sent to be recruited at the Bugbear's Cave tavern.  I've tried everything to get the next quest hint to pop up, but to no avail.  Supposedly it pops when you listen to gossip, but I sat there quite literally for 4+ hours without anything, and have restarted the scenario from scratch to try and avoid it.  Am I missing something or is this an unpassable glitch in the game?

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  • You give up on this wiz? I would like to help you but its the only AD&D game I don't have.
  • Yes and no. I've shelved it for the time being, but I will get back to it eventually. It's just hurting my brain trying to figure out if I screwed up somewhere along the line, or if it's glitched, or if I'm just an idiot and missing the obvious
  • Originally posted by: the_wizard_666

    Yes and no. I've shelved it for the time being, but I will get back to it eventually. It's just hurting my brain trying to figure out if I screwed up somewhere along the line, or if it's glitched, or if I'm just an idiot and missing the obvious




    Honestly sometimes, it's better just to start the damn thing over from scratch.  Sounds weird, but there is many a game, that was the final remedy for me. 

    Either you can build up momentum through breezing through it, or pick up an item, you completely missed along the way.   I haven't played this game, so not sure if this will apply here or not.

  • Originally posted by: JD

    Originally posted by: the_wizard_666

    Yes and no. I've shelved it for the time being, but I will get back to it eventually. It's just hurting my brain trying to figure out if I screwed up somewhere along the line, or if it's glitched, or if I'm just an idiot and missing the obvious




    Honestly sometimes, it's better just to start the damn thing over from scratch.  Sounds weird, but there is many a game, that was the final remedy for me. 

    Either you can build up momentum through breezing through it, or pick up an item, you completely missed along the way.   I haven't played this game, so not sure if this will apply here or not.



    If I start over, it's the third time doing so on this scenario.  The first time I got stuck at the castle, couldn't figure it out.  Second time I shelved it after getting stuck at the castle again, but picked it up a year and a half later and got to where I am now.  Then I restarted and got stuck here again.  I'm thinking it might possibly require a skill that the theif doesn't have, like "charm waitress" or something (it's a command exclusive to mages).  I'm thinking I should use the fighter-mage-thief and see if that helps.  It's random which quest line you get with the multi-class characters, but I can always restart and try again until I get on the thief quest line.  It'd just suck to do all that without any idea if it even works or not.
  • Originally posted by: the_wizard_666

    Originally posted by: JD

    Originally posted by: the_wizard_666

    Yes and no. I've shelved it for the time being, but I will get back to it eventually. It's just hurting my brain trying to figure out if I screwed up somewhere along the line, or if it's glitched, or if I'm just an idiot and missing the obvious




    Honestly sometimes, it's better just to start the damn thing over from scratch.  Sounds weird, but there is many a game, that was the final remedy for me. 

    Either you can build up momentum through breezing through it, or pick up an item, you completely missed along the way.   I haven't played this game, so not sure if this will apply here or not.



    If I start over, it's the third time doing so on this scenario.  The first time I got stuck at the castle, couldn't figure it out.  Second time I shelved it after getting stuck at the castle again, but picked it up a year and a half later and got to where I am now.  Then I restarted and got stuck here again.  I'm thinking it might possibly require a skill that the theif doesn't have, like "charm waitress" or something (it's a command exclusive to mages).  I'm thinking I should use the fighter-mage-thief and see if that helps.  It's random which quest line you get with the multi-class characters, but I can always restart and try again until I get on the thief quest line.  It'd just suck to do all that without any idea if it even works or not.


    Bet it makes you wish there was a "Charm Game" skill, eh?
  • I played through the thief quest on the PC version, but I don't really remember much unfortunately

    I know when I tried the nes version I was quite disappointed in it. How did you ever beat all the arena fighters, the controls are terrible.. lol

    Sorry, I don't remember much, but I do remember at least in the PC game that it can be done and there was never any point that you had to listen to gossip for a really long time or anything?
  • Yeah, every other quest I've encountered you listened to gossip once, maybe twice total. As for the arena fights, it was pretty simple actually. I'd basically just swing left (hold left and press A) repeatedly, and when that ceased working, I'd switch to a right hand swing. Occasionally I'd just alternate, and once the timing was nailed I could do it without getting hit in most fights. Definitely terrible controls though, but the game itself is far better than I was expecting once I got into it.
  • Are there other pubs you can listen to gossip in? Or maybe you missed the quest gossip already?  I do remember sometimes you have to sleep or rest for a night first before things would happen. Have you tried just moving on to the archery range and completing 4 archery levels anyway despite there being no special gossip?

    In the PC version you can keep your characters from hillsfar and use them in pool of radiance and curse of the azure bonds. I loved those games as a kid.

  • Well, there's three other pubs, and I've sat there listening for a while in each of them, despite specifically being directed to a specific one. I also tried doing the next step, but nothing happens unfortunately...even got a perfect 7000 points (that took a while). I'm really not sure what else to try, other than trying a mix class character to see if the different tavern options will work.
  • The walkthrough is probably broken and missing a step.. lol sorry I couldn't be more help, it was like 20 years ago. I got stuck a whole bunch of times and wandered aimlessly until something happened because I had no internet help at the time.
  • Yeah, the only walkthroughs I found were pretty bare-bones. All it says is after the arena fights to go and wait to be recruited. The only thing I think it might be is either a programming error that requires a multi-class character to advance the story, or one needs to be there at a specific time. It could also be a console-specific problem, since all the guides I've seen are for the PC version.
  • Just got to thinking about this again...the Thief scenario is now the only one I need to beat, so I figured I'd bump this in the hopes that a newer member may have some advice to get past this part of the game.
  • Have you tried leaving the town on your horse and going to the trading post or something and coming back? I remember having to do this once in order to kickstart the story even though leaving town wasn't part of the quest at all.
  • I think I did, but I'm not 100% certain. Maybe I'll try that...



    EDIT: Nope, that failed miserably
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