Zelda II

JoeC75JoeC75
in Gamer's Gauntlet
Nothing is worse than playing a game and taking a break from it than when you start playing again you forget your progress. I have been working on finishing Zelda II for the first time. I had played through most of the game about a month and a half ago anf finally picked it back up tongiht. I thought I had finished the 5th palace and needed to beat the 6th before heading to the Great Palace. 



I spent time beating the 6th palace and I'm all leveled to 8 with each attribute. I then go through the entire world collecting all of the 1-ups before I make the daunting trek to the great palace. I get to the gate to realize the barrier is still up and I can't get in! Whoops, I still have 1 crystal left. Silly me, I thought this was a crystal you had to put in to a statue to remove the barrier. Wrong.... looks like I forgot to beat that 5th palace. I had to take the gamble of 'shutting the game off w/o holding reset beause I didn't want to save progress. 



Lucky for me I didn't erase the cart. Looks like I'll have to go beat the boss to the 5th palace before doing all that work all over again. 
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  • MuthafodderMuthafodder
    Hint for future play through.



    Once I learned you could jump over the crystals after beating the temple bosses, I'd save all of them for leveling up the higher ranks.



    Makes leveling up less a chore as you can level up to 5/6s pretty easy already.



    I don't understand why others feel this game is hard.

    I run through it every now and then, easily my favorite Zelda game.
  • JoeC75JoeC75
    Luckily, I'm already fully leveled up, so playing through the rest isn't awful. Its not super hard once you get the nuances, but for 10 year old me, it sucked. I just finally decided to give it a go again.



    I am starting to love this game. I really feel it gets a bad reputation. If this game had any other name than Zelda II, it would go down as one of the better NES games out there. If it were simply called The Adventure of ________ (leave out Link or Zelda) it would have been a hit.
  • TENGENTENGEN
    If you want to 'cheat' and you have a turbo controller like a MAX, you can get hit by a wandering enemy in the swamp land. Then just stand at the far left of the screen and put a book or something on your controller to auto slash. A little 2 pt bird keeps appearing.



    Leave it like that for an hour or whatever and you go up a level. Keep coming back and selecting your upgrade throughout the day you can be at max level in no time!
  • cosmicjimcosmicjim
    It was harder for me to get to the last palace than to actually beat it. HHHAAAATTTTEEEE flying eyeballs.
  • OuendanOuendan

    Originally posted by: JoeC75



    Luckily, I'm already fully leveled up, so playing through the rest isn't awful. Its not super hard once you get the nuances, but for 10 year old me, it sucked. I just finally decided to give it a go again.



    I am starting to love this game. I really feel it gets a bad reputation. If this game had any other name than Zelda II, it would go down as one of the better NES games out there. If it were simply called The Adventure of ________ (leave out Link or Zelda) it would have been a hit.

    Zelda II was a hit.




  • JoeC75JoeC75

    Originally posted by: NES_Bro




    Originally posted by: JoeC75



    Luckily, I'm already fully leveled up, so playing through the rest isn't awful. Its not super hard once you get the nuances, but for 10 year old me, it sucked. I just finally decided to give it a go again.



    I am starting to love this game. I really feel it gets a bad reputation. If this game had any other name than Zelda II, it would go down as one of the better NES games out there. If it were simply called The Adventure of ________ (leave out Link or Zelda) it would have been a hit.

    Zelda II was a hit.



     



    Define hit. Sold a lot of copies or everyone loved it.



    That being said... I realize depending on who you talk to, it could be both. I've seen the arguement go both ways on this title though, depends on what kind of crowd you have in the room that day. 
  • Robin MiharaRobin Mihara
    Zelda II was a travesty. They went back to what worked for LTTP
  • JoeC75JoeC75
    ^^^^^ This. Lots of people HATE it as a Zelda game because it went away from what was awesome in the original. The only top down aspect was the map navigation portion and it really aggravated the fans of the first game because you can't do anything.



    Like I said, if it were released as a stand alone with a different name and not as Zelda II it would be viewed in a different light today. It might have not sold quite as many copies, but it would be fondly remembered for what it is gameplay-wise than being that 'dark horse' Zelda game for the NES.
  • PoloniusPolonius
    From my understanding, Zelda 2 was well received at the time. It's only history that hasn't been kind. It's a fantastic game, though.



    I find the hardest part to be the Great Palace, which I haven't beaten without using a map. And the boss. Flippin' hard!
  • cosmicjimcosmicjim
    Zelda 2 was indeed a hit at the time. The difficulty was the complaint the people had that didn't like it, usually.
  • Boosted52405Boosted52405
    Well imagine trying to make it through Death Mountain without your candle....I tried this over and over again before realizing I missed something. Post-Death Mountain I didn't find the game too difficult at all.
  • Blue GollumerBlue Gollumer
    Zelda 2 is my favorite game of all time. It drives me nuts when I hear people bashing it. I always think of it as being like Zelda 1 and Metroid mixed together. Brilliant. Nobody talked badly about this game when I was a kid and it first came out. The hatred came posthumously with emulation and people rediscovering the NES only to find the second Zelda different from the first. That's like wanting to play a sports game, picking up Final Fantasy and getting angry when it doesn't contain footballs.



    Zelda 2 has a lot more in common with the later versions of Castlevania (SotN) and Metroid (like Super Metroid) than the earlier iterations of those games. There is a logic and flow that it proceeds through that is similar to many famous games which come after it.
  • OuendanOuendan
    The combat in Zelda 2 is superior to Zelda 1. That is all.
  • arch_8ngelarch_8ngel

    Originally posted by: NES_Bro



    The combat in Zelda 2 is superior to Zelda 1. That is all.





    It definitely has an interesting combat system.
  • Jono1874Jono1874

    Originally posted by: NES_Bro



    The combat in Zelda 2 is superior to Zelda 1. That is all.



    Good sir, I demand you explain your thought process at once!

     
  • guest2586guest2586
    zelda 2 is my fav zelda of all time. i love the experience points system, and the music is great. the challenge is too much imo. it's not an everyone can play game unfortunately. games should be as easy and accessible as super mario 3. that's the definition of a video game. fun, tough but easy, and anyone can get into it.



    i am error.
  • GameBoyScottyGameBoyScotty

    Originally posted by: Robin M



    Zelda II was a travesty. They went back to what worked for LTTP



    Travesty is a bit harsh, but yeah, I agree. LoZ and LTTP were (are) tha shizzie.


  • removed04092017removed04092017
    Agree with robin. If Zelda 2 was not a Zelda title, nobody would like it or even cared as it was just a bad game. Still has good music though.
  • ilovecardjilovecardj
    such a shame. Zelda 2 was my favorite zelda game of all time. LTTP is amazing as well. what Id give for a zelda 2 remake or style revival
  • bearcat-dougbearcat-doug

    Originally posted by: GameBoyScotty



    Travesty is a bit harsh, but yeah, I agree. LoZ and LTTP were (are) tha shizzie.

     



    I don't think I'd go as far as to call it a travesty either, but it's not even on the same radar screen as Legend of Zelda and Link to the Past.


  • TanookiTanooki
    Zelda II inspired the CD-I games and that says enough right there. It's a tragedy that caused a travesty trifecta.
  • cradelitcradelit
    Link was an awesome game. It established a beautiful precedent of actually making a new game for a sequel that was the best part of Zelda until they got tired of working aster ocarina an just released that one over and over ad-nausium. Of course the change fearers hated it but for me it set an expectation for sequels to be perpetually disappointed thereafter by everyone else
  • AustinAustin
    Meh, whatever--Zelda II is awesome.
  • TWarwick07TWarwick07
    Nintendo made such a big deal about the release of zelda 2 I don't remember a game that had that kind of marketing push before it.they had us waiting for the game and then came the chip shortage and when we finally got it it was so different from zelda 1 most people didnt know what to do with it. i would have prefered the zelda sequel to be the same as the first with different map , items ,quest etc. something like the zelda outlands game would have been the perfect zelda 2. i agree that if zelda 2 had a different title it would be a more fondly remembered game without having to live up to it's big brother
  • LegendLegend

    Originally posted by: 3GenGames



    Agree with robin. If Zelda 2 was not a Zelda title, nobody would like it or even cared as it was just a bad game. Still has good music though.





    I actually feel it would have been the other way around. I think most people would have liked it better and accepted it more if it was not a Zelda title. Or at least it would have been considered a "hidden gem"



    I love Zelda II myself. I think it's a great game and a worthy sequal. Hard as balls though. 



    I'd even say I like it better than ALTTP. The first two nes games are tied for my favorite, then Link's Awakening coming in second. Didn't care much for Ocarina or Majora's Mask. Haven't played windwaker or the Wii titles. 



    Later games in the series even adopted some concepts from it. Like learning new moves and having a magic system. 
  • SamSpadeSamSpade
    I'm not a big fan of it, it's not awful but I'd just much rather play Legend of Zelda or Link to the Past. I do have some pretty strong memories playing it when I was a kid but I just can't get into it now. I really need to try Zelda Outlands.
  • mobiusclimbermobiusclimber
    I just don't think the combat in this game works that well. It's possible to make this sort of weird action-y random battle combat work, but I just don't feel like Zelda 2 accomplishes it. Majin Eiyuuden Wataru Gaiden (it's based on the same property as Keith Courage) on the Famicom actually does it right, imo. Still, I'm not a fan of this sort of action-RPG (random battles that go to a confined space for a side-scrolling action battle). It pretty much just turned me off to the game. (I also find Zelda 2 kinda boring.)
  • DestructoDiskDestructoDisk

    Originally posted by: Muthafodder



    Hint for future play through.



    Once I learned you could jump over the crystals after beating the temple bosses, I'd save all of them for leveling up the higher ranks.



    Makes leveling up less a chore as you can level up to 5/6s pretty easy already.



    I don't understand why others feel this game is hard.

    I run through it every now and then, easily my favorite Zelda game.





    Not related but.. I was looking at your avatar, and I was like "What the hell is that?".  After a few puzzled seconds I have come up with.. four gold gameboy pockets with cameras turned upside down.. is that right?
  • TWarwick07TWarwick07

    Originally posted by: SamSpade



    I'm not a big fan of it, it's not awful but I'd just much rather play Legend of Zelda or Link to the Past. I do have some pretty strong memories playing it when I was a kid but I just can't get into it now. I really need to try Zelda Outlands.





    Definitely try zelda outlands. it is what zelda 2 should have been
  • TheNothing716TheNothing716
    History wasn't kind to the game because more and more gamers got used to getting the same thing in each game. Take a series like COD nowadays. You take the same engine, change a few assets and story and you pretty much have the same game just a different title. That's just one example.



    Now look at the changes between LOZ and Zelda 2; Mario to Mario 2 to Mario 3...these games changed almost night and day with each sequel.



    Wish we could go back to those days when we got something fresh with each iteration. Zelda 2 wasn't without its flaws, but I don't think there's a flawless game out there. Well the closest for me has been LTTP haha
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